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PostSubject: "Humanity" ?   31st May 2010, 8:39 pm

Humanity? i need to look that word up in the dictionary..i forgot what it means..
i'm in shock,i'm devastated,lost my hope this morning when i saw the news..i do not believe in "humanity" any more..

a convoy of ships loaded with food and medications for Gaza by a non-governmental organization in Turkey-the Gaza Freedom Flotilla- was attacked by the Israeli soldiers, and lots of(some say 16) activists from many nationalities (Greece,Germany,Sweden as far as i can remember) were killed and some of them are wounded..

and they are guilty of being "humanists" Neutral
wow,i can't find any goddamn words right now..who would've guessed that the posters of that organization which i see everyday on streets would be printed with blood? i so wanted to be in that convoy,among those people;if i had the chance,i wouldn't hesitate just one second,the other day i was telling it to Bet, and now i can't believe what's happening..just think about it:those people are gone,just because they wanted to give a helping hand to those children,those poor people Crying or Very sad

God bless the souls of my beautiful people from all around the world who died there Crying or Very sad

i wonder how those responsible fucking Israeli warheads wash the blood off their hands..i really wonder.


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PostSubject: Re: "Humanity" ?   31st May 2010, 8:42 pm

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I woke up this morning in Amman, Jordan, to the alarming news that things had turned bloody in the Mediterranean. The latest reports are indicating that Israeli forces have killed some 16 humanitarian activists and injured many dozens more on board of the Gaza Freedom Flotilla, a humanitarian convoy of ships attempting to deliver aid to the besieged Gaza Strip.

Background:

Gaza has been under a devastating and unlawful blockade since Hamas won parliamentary elections in 2006, and the blockade was further tightened when Hamas took control of the crowded strip after a military confrontation with political rival Fatah. The blockade persisted despite Hamas's strict observance, and repeated Israeli-initiated breaks, of a ceasefire agreement that mandated an easing of the blockade.

The blockade caused "dire shortages of food, water, cooking gas, fuel and access to medical care," leading to a very serious humanitarian crisis, including hundreds of civilian deaths due to lack of access to adequate medical care. Human Rights Watch Executive Director Kenneth Roth said the blockade had led to a "catastrophe" in Gaza, while former U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights Mary Robinson, commenting on the effects of the blockade on Gaza, said "their whole civilization has been destroyed, I'm not exaggerating." A headline in the UK's Times Online indicated that some Gaza families had literally been reduced to eating grass.

It is against this backdrop that the Freedom Flotilla has joined several previous convoys, some successful and others not, which sought to break the siege on Gaza by delivering humanitarian aid.

This Morning's Events:

It's not readily clear what exactly transpired on the ships after Israeli forces (initiating the confrontation) stormed them in international waters, but Deputy Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon's preposterous assertion that the humanitarian activists were connected to Al-Qaeda has indicated from the beginning that Israel has no intention whatsoever to be serious in explaining its actions. But who can blame them for reaching for the absurd? To appreciate how tough it is to explain their actions, all one has to do is imagine the opposite scenario: What if it were Hamas militants that attacked humanitarian ships in international waters on its way to deliver humanitarian aid to Israel? Is there anything Hamas could possibly say to make its actions seem defensible?

Attempting to tow a slightly less absurd line of argument was Israeli government spokesman Mark Regev, who told the BBC that the aid convoy was to blame for the violence, because "unfortunately this group were [sic] dead-set on confrontation." Except, of course, the aid convoy was not going to Israel, but to Gaza (you know, where we're told Israel's occupation ended years ago). So, unless Regev wants to suggest that Israel was acting to protect Gazans from a confrontation with the aid convoy, he should come to terms with the obvious fact that it is Israel's unlawful siege on someone else's land which is "dead-set on confrontation" with a world that has lost patience for a policy of mass devastation and economic strangulation of an entire people.


Global Outrage & Future Implications:

The costs of Israel's blunder were immediate: Turkey withdrew its Ambassador to Israel, and joined Greece in cancelling joint military exercises with it; while several EU countries summoned their Israeli Ambassadors to protest Israel's conduct. Hezbollah's first reaction, after an emboldened speech by its leader several days ago, was to state that it considers all Lebanese citizens among the abducted activists to be "hostages," seemingly justifying potential retaliatory actions by Hezbollah. A meeting between Obama and Netanyahu has been cancelled, and protests against Israel's atrocity have been organized throughout the United States and across the world. And if this morning's actions lead Turkey to join the Hezbollah-Syria-Iran alliance, the strategic costs to Israel may be flat out disastrous.

To reiterate, Israel is confronting a world that is getting increasingly fed up with its occupation, its siege of Gaza, its illegal settlements and home demolitions; and it faces a choice: it can either begin to behave within minimum standards of decency and legality towards a real end to the occupation and a peace agreement with the region, or it can become even more belligerent and violent, paving its way towards greater global isolation. Its arrogance of power seems to have taken it down the latter path, and it may be in need of friends to save it from its own reckless behavior.


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PostSubject: Re: "Humanity" ?   31st May 2010, 9:59 pm

i was watching one of our reporters from port of Ashdod,Israel where the ship can be seen..as he was talking, lots of crazy Israeli people were singing and "celebrating" the atrocity..they were waving Israel flags,trying to block the broadcast so they had to disconnect..

they are "celebrating"..wow..just like they did when they were in war with Hamas(!)
i remember families went up to a hill where Gaza could be seen,they were with their children,having picnic with ther binoculars watching the atrocities and "celebrating"! even little Israeli children Neutral

a large group of Israeli people also protested Turkey in front of Turkish consulate building..for what?

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PostSubject: Re: "Humanity" ?   31st May 2010, 10:07 pm

That's just plain horrible, really. This fucking war is bringing so many deaths, chaos and atrocities of any kind... and what is the reason? Why, after so many centuries being on this freakin' planet we could NEVER learn that violence is NOT the solution to problems? So many innocent lives were destroyed because of this madness... and here we are, once again, with another shocking atrocity.
Now, those poor persons lost their lives, and they're only guilt was their will to help people... will there ever be an end to all of this shit?

By the way, I just HATE how they use (or try to use) Al-Qaeda as an excuse to justify... almost ANYTHING. Yeah, Al-Qaeda did horrible things and all, but... merciless violence is on both sides. Seems they never remember this.


And... gosh, people celebrating other's people deaths?

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That sums it up pretty well, I think...
I'm sorry to say that I lost my faith in humanity long ago... and this just makes me think that I won't gain it again in a long time. Sad
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PostSubject: Re: "Humanity" ?   31st May 2010, 10:19 pm

Doctor Ruin wrote:

By the way, I just HATE how they use (or try to use) Al-Qaeda as an excuse to justify... almost ANYTHING. Yeah, Al-Qaeda did horrible things and all, but... merciless violence is on both sides. Seems they never remember this.

Al-Qaeda did horrible things,Nazis did horrible things..but Israel is even more disgusting right now..
god, i feel sick Sad


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And... gosh, people celebrating other's people deaths?

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That sums it up pretty well, I think...
I'm sorry to say that I lost my faith in humanity long ago... and this just makes me think that I won't gain it again in a long time. Sad

that statement is so true..
i always wanted to have that trust in humanity,always wanted to believe in people and their innocence despite of all these madness going on in the world..but this is just too much..
too much..
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PostSubject: Re: "Humanity" ?   31st May 2010, 11:53 pm

Yep... seems we never learn... and that just drives me crazy.
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PostSubject: Re: "Humanity" ?   1st June 2010, 6:04 pm

When I got back home and watched the news yesterday, I exactly realized what happened in reality. Couldn't help my tears then felt just like a fool.

This got me into thinking that I don't feel sorry about the 'martyrs' died on the ship, but sorry for the people who's with Israeli Government and the absolutely innocent, mentally grown up Israeli people.

I don't know if it's true or not but some claim that the ship was full of weapons in fact. The human side of me says it's impossible; I've just seen a woman with her baby in her arms that got back to Turkey from that flotilla, she says that she took her baby with her just because to show everyone that even that little's brave and willing for humanity. A ship full of weapons with a baby on it? No way...

Protesters storm Israeli consulates in Copenhagen, Oslo, İstanbul, Los Angeles, Boston, London, Dublin... But it's actually nothing. Remember the hatred towards Irish people after Brimingham pub bombings or for a nearer example; muslim people after 9/11. It's dead wrong to me, I never wanna do the same but those zionists (not Jews) should be stopped. And that'll happen if our dickheaded governments do somethings positive instead of bitching about things and barking to each other.

As I write this, the tv's are waiting for Obama's call to Erdoğan that'll happen in ten minutes, same old story, same old. Let's see what's gonna happen new; if there's anything like that in long term politic plans. However, Erdoğan has just separated Israeli Government and Israeli people into two different categories while talking about the issue, I think that's a good sign.

And as I usually do, I was listening to the opposite thoughts of youtube vbloggers, I came across that Canadian guy saying he's with Israel and describing the activist people on the ship as "Crazy. 700 pot smoking, dirty haired hippies, strumming the acoustic guitars singing Kumbaya my Lord on their way to help the poor Palestinians. Filthy. John Lennon, Yoko Ono types of orgies." That was in the description of the video, I didn't watch it and I won't I think. But if you like, it's down below.




And I also came across to Israeli people's celebrate after the attack. I didn't wanna watch it either:




Well, the ship is on its way at the moment. The activists didn't wanna come back, and some are under arrest of Israel. No one can guess what is gonna happen but please God gave those zionists an open mind. God save innocent Israeli people from their government. Nothing more to say.
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PostSubject: Re: "Humanity" ?   2nd June 2010, 12:10 am

You made some great points in your post, Bet...

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This got me into thinking that I don't feel sorry about the 'martyrs' died on the ship, but sorry for the people who's with Israeli Government and the absolutely innocent, mentally grown up Israeli people.

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Protesters storm Israeli consulates in Copenhagen, Oslo, İstanbul, Los Angeles, Boston, London, Dublin... But it's actually nothing. Remember the hatred towards Irish people after Brimingham pub bombings or for a nearer example; muslim people after 9/11. It's dead wrong to me, I never wanna do the same but those zionists (not Jews) should be stopped. And that'll happen if our dickheaded governments do somethings positive instead of bitching about things and barking to each other.

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No one can guess what is gonna happen but please God gave those zionists an open mind. God save innocent Israeli people from their government. Nothing more to say.

I really agree on these parts...


I'll try to take a look at the video, even if the description of that Canadian guy already says enough... and, unfortunately, it's nothing like what I would have liked to hear Neutral
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PostSubject: Re: "Humanity" ?   2nd June 2010, 12:23 am

Betelguese wrote:
No one can guess what is gonna happen but please God gave those zionists an open mind. God save innocent Israeli people from their government. Nothing more to say.

this..
nothing more i can add..
hatred won't do any good..and i actually don't hate those poor,narrow minded zionists..they blindly take what their media inject to them..
i feel very sorry for their souls and poisoned minds..
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PostSubject: Re: "Humanity" ?   4th June 2010, 9:34 pm

Ok, I'm about to start a freakin' argument with a guy from Israel right now. Reason of it all?
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